Questions meme

[chainsawmascara]

Oh, why not!

ASK A QUESTION it can be anything CFUD related, OOC, IC, Relationship, psychology, thoughts, whatever. I.E. My character's opinion of your character or maybe what you have been wondering about this behavior or that, or general thoughts on my characters or canons or what, who I might consider topping you into apping, etc.

WHEN I REPLY I will also ask you a question in turn!

I play: Umeda, Riku Replica, Heat, Sakubo (can ask individually or as a pair), Minato, Soubi, Tsukihiko, Cheryl, Grelle, and Mutsu.

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1/2 lol

[chainsawmascara]

ohoho that is EXTREMELY intriguing to me!

God, Grelle and women. Okay. Obviously I want to start this that she self-identifies female; from her opinion, she views being a woman as a perfectly admirable thing to be and something she is, body aside. However, her standards are... absurd, like I said. Grelle has no patience for what she perceives as flaws among women and picks and chooses what stereotypes are ‘flaws’ quite liberally. She totally sympathizes with Madam Red’s pain over being unable to bear children and appreciates that Madam Red expresses this rage through murder; these traits make her declare that she loves Madam Red. And she shows her appreciation by joining her and helping her out by loaning her powers. Yet (spoilers spoilers) the moment Madam Red can’t kill someone -- her own nephew, Ciel -- Grelle loses patience with her and kills her. And then when she sees Madam Red’s cinematic record (in which the inability to have children takes a big backseat to her sense of sentimentality; how she’s looking for vengeance on a world where the man she loved could marry the sister she loved, where she’d have to settle for a man she didn’t love but liked and lose that too, where her sister and the man she loved could die) Grelle has nothing but disgust for her. Which seems odd because Grelle LOVES romance! She LOVES drama and of course she herself talks about wanting to get married and have a stereotypical relationship! But for Grelle, none of this can ever take a back seat to the violent drive. Even then, Grelle’s fine with the fact that Madam Red was acting violent out of a sense of being denied these (so-called) ‘typical’ female desires; it’s not as ideal as acting that way alongside it, but she was aware of that up front. But the fact that these desires -- that ultimately, Madam Red couldn’t push herself to destroy the last vestige of these people she loved (Ciel, their child, who she viewed like the child she couldn’t have)... THAT’S what disgusted Grelle. And Grelle couched that in the terms of ‘not knowing you were such a pathetic, stereotypical woman’ and considering it a ‘cheap drama’. Because once the ‘feminine desires’ hamper someone from committing violence, she considers them, well, unworthy of her standards.

I mentioned before that Grelle logic always works FOR Grelle. Recently in a thread with Tyki she climbed in through the window, and Tyki was like “That’s not very ladylike,” and Grelle answered with, “Of course it’s ladylike. I just did it!”. Grelle will gladly redefine a ‘proper’ lady to her standards, and that includes being, well, of the “female of the species is more deadly than the male” variety. A good woman, in her mind, is clad in blood red and dyed in the blood of others; she’s a poisonous snake who’s welcome to as many feminine desires and feminine wiles as she wants, but if she lets any of these hold her back, then she’s ugly, stupid, useless, and a discredit to the sex.

Which of course is HORRIBLY MISOGYNISTIC! But Grelle doesn’t see it that way, partially because Grelle is psychotic.

It’s hard to say if Grelle would view weak-willed (or men with traits she’d percieve as weak-willed, more likely; Madam Red was anything but weak-willed) men similarly because we never see her dealing with any of them. The only people we have seen her interacting onscreen with are Will, Sebastian, Ciel (who she considers a dismissable child), and Madam Red. Technically speaking, she’s also in the same scenes as Lau and Ranmao but this is when she’s playing meek butler and always hovering in the background -- there’s no honest exchange ‘as she really is’. But I think that she would judge men less harshly, partially because she -- through her own extremely biased lens (and given her internalized misogyny it’s even more biased, in a way) -- views them as the lesser sex, so she wouldn’t hold them to such exacting standards. And partially because even if she thinks that way, she also tends to view men as the ‘intriguing other’ and doesn’t react as if she’s trying to identify with them.