Questions meme

[chainsawmascara]

Oh, why not!

ASK A QUESTION it can be anything CFUD related, OOC, IC, Relationship, psychology, thoughts, whatever. I.E. My character's opinion of your character or maybe what you have been wondering about this behavior or that, or general thoughts on my characters or canons or what, who I might consider topping you into apping, etc.

WHEN I REPLY I will also ask you a question in turn!

I play: Umeda, Riku Replica, Heat, Sakubo (can ask individually or as a pair), Minato, Soubi, Tsukihiko, Cheryl, Grelle, and Mutsu.

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[butlersfoodcake.livejournal.com]

TALK TO ME ABOUT GRELLE AND SEX AND HER BEING TRANSGENDER.

[chainsawmascara]

OKAY I AM GOING TO DIVE INTO THE REALM OF HEADCANON HERE but point out where I'm supporting it from whatever.

To start with, I don't think Grelle's a virgin! I do think that's one way people could read it, since she does refer to herself as a "maiden" a few times ("The face is a maiden's treasure", etc) but I'm pretty sure that's Grelle playing up the "a beautiful young girl" side of maiden, not the virgin side. The way she approaches sexuality strikes me more as someone who's tried it, liked it, and wants MORE PLEASE rather than someone who's interested in trying it but hasn't yet. There's a lot of weight of awareness behind her sexual aggression, so I assume that at some point in her life Grelle has actually managed to get off with someone. Because of, uh, BEING GRELLE, I don't think she gets sex OFTEN, read, more than once in a blue moon, but that doesn't stop her from actively pursuing it.

NOW, THE SEX ACT.

Obviously there are some ...complications! With sex and Grelle in that Grelle will want to be approached as a woman during sex, but is very biologically male. But I think this is a disparity that Grelle, at least, is down with. Although we know she's not FOND of her body as it is, we also know she works it, and we know she feels like a sexy person. I think we see hints that Grelle is perfectly willing to sexual innuendo in a way that refers to the fact she has a penis, though, to be fair, only through proxies ("Don't say that. I'm sure you'll become addicted to the taste of my deathscythe!" - and, ok, a chainsaw is a phallic weapon, the phallic element is sort of there). Obviously, she'd rather have a female body of her own to play with, but if nothing else, Grelle is able to work with what she's got, and confidently. The way Grelle approaches life makes me pretty confident that she will be un-self-conscious about stripping down and demanding you lick her toes and take her "with all the passion men and women can afford" or something like that and, herself, just brushing past the fact her body is male.

That said, where a lot of the hitch comes in is with other people! It's not that anyone would be 'trapped' by Grelle -- Grelle just doesn't pass as biologically female, so there'd be no, you know, penis surprise; if someone is about to get far enough with Grelle to actually get in bed with her, it'd be more surprising if they didn't know she was biologically male, just like it'd be surprising if they hadn't heard that she identified female. I can't really imagine a scenario where this would happen! So the hitch isn't anything like that, but I can potentially see one if they a) approach Grelle as a man in bed. B) will come later.

Because, here's the thing, during sex with Grelle, she is going to want to be romanced. Dramatically! She is going to want to be told she is ~~~beautiful~~~ and, yeah, if someone is going to get her naked and be able to call her a lovely lady or something she might explode in stars and hearts or something.

But of course, with sex, there's always the question of what exactly are you doing together, and that's where some of the awkwardness is going to come in, because, yeah, well, Grelle does have a penis. And Grelle intends to get off! And all this can be dealt with in a brush-aside way if someone is creative enough, but there IS going to be awkwardness and probably discomfort all around.

[chainsawmascara]

Which leads into b). B), the other potential hitch, comes if they decided that because Grelle identifies female, means that she's going to want to be passive and submissive. Because, uh, no. Grelle is very, very sexually aggressive. She can be a submissive if it fits her idea of what's fun to roleplay with that person, but Grelle's concept of femininity is also very in your face, flamboyant, and taking what you want. ("The more flamboyant a woman is, the more beautiful she is, like a poisonous flower -- right?") In bed, Grelle would be all over her hypothetical partner: biting, kissing, touching everywhere, climbing on top of, squirming on, grinding against, etc. She'd love to be overpowered, held down, and taken! But overpowering isn't overpowering if you just LET it happen.

Basically, any sex that will really, really go the way Grelle most wants, and fit most with her sense of identity, and avoid triggering any discomfort issues with her body, would be someone who can handle her sexual aggression and still treat her like a lady, both emotionally and physically. And, for the record, this applies to whether she'd be sleeping with a man or a woman -- keeping in mind that either sex is going to approach gender roles in bed slightly different as a default.

I assume all sex Grelle has had has NOT gone this way, btw. And I assume Grelle enjoyed some of the basic physical pleasure anyway, but is not giving up her dreaaaam of really good sex that isn't, well, weird*.

* from Grelle's perspective of Will.

I have to run to work so let me know if there's anything further to fill out and I will do so >D Oh, yeah, just one more note on sex: Oral with Grelle is probably not a great idea. I mean. SHE'D be into it. But would her partner? I mean. Look at her teeth.

ETA: I guess I should expand on the additional complication of her being a sado-masochist at some point too huh. WHEN I AM HOME.


Also, Grelle or Ash/Angela, Fuck or die. Expand on details.

[butlersfoodcake.livejournal.com]

...fuck Grelle, kill Ashgela, SOB

In the list of people who are too tacky to live, Ashgela would place definitively above Grelle, from what I've seen of hir! Obviously I've only seen like two episodes of the anime. But Sebastian's really only willing to put up with angels or what he considers bad taste in the interest of getting something from it, and Ashgela is enough like him that sie doesn't have a lot of obvious emotional vunerabilities. What buttons sie does have don't get interesting reactions when pushed, because just freaking the fuck out is boring. Sie wants in his pants for really tacky reasons. So Ashgela is just thoroughly a useless existence, while Grelle might have the potential to be kind of useful sometime, and at least her reaction to having her face stomped on is kind of fun. GRELLE WOULD LIVE AND ASHGELA WOULD DIE.

If Sebastian was forced into sex with Grelle, the way it'd go would depend on his mood! He might just get things over with fast and hard with a great deal of disgust at the fact that Grelle was enjoying it, if he were impatient and not feeling very playful. But I think he's also capable of putting aside his distaste enough to make sure Grelle was in heaven right till the end, when he'd like. WALK AWAY RIGHT BEFORE SHE CAME AND MAKE HER FINISH HERSELF OFF AND SAY HE WAS TOO SICK OF TOUCHING SOMETHING SO UGLY TO CONTINUE. And then go polish furniture or something. Best lay.

What does Cheryl think of Ciel?